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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Somewhere in this thread Voldemort's resurection was brought up I believe with the idea of spells exceeding two words. That made me think was his resurrection experimental magic because I think if it wasn't the idea would have come up prior to LV return. Also was it technically a total resurection? I beieve Hagrid and Dumbledore both mention that LV's soul was merely wandering and waiting in book 1 so was it a ressurection or relinking the soul to the body?

On that note is it possible to relink the body to the soul? Perhaps LV's return sheds light on a possibility of returning souls Dementor's took with their kisses to the victims which may or may not be useful in the war.

Also James is an experimenter as according to Sirius he created the two way mirrors...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure that Sirius says James created the mirrors? The US hardback version of OOTP doesn't say that. The only explanation that Sirius gives is that he and James used to use them in detention, with no details about their creation or where Sirius got them. If you have canon to prove that James created them, it would be great to see it!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may be mistaken but I can't prove whether or not that is true until I get at least one of my copies of OOP back. But even if it isn't true what about the map? They created that as something that was most likely experimental.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Marauders made the map, they drew in all of Hogwarts tunnels, corridors etc (how they got the moving staircases to show correctly I have no idea). However, the original idea may not have been theirs. Yes they drew the map, but as to whether showing people's locations and movements was their idea or not is purely supposition.

As to discovering new spells, and what they are used for. Some of it could be trial and error, some accidental (buffalo on a chest). They do have a reversal of accidently magic committee. If it was accidental, but did what you wanted to, then it wouldnt have to be reversed. Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am surprised no one has mentioned this in the whole thread, so I will. We know that Voldemort does experimental magic or at least one of his DE does, the clue tells us that as well as Wormtail in PoA pg. 374 AV:

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The Dark Lord...he has weapons you can't imagine


But wouldn't some order members too? I mean think about it. Some people have said, that maybe that's what Lily did was work for the ministry doing experimental magic...thinking along this line what kinds of experiments would order members do to help fight against Voldemort?

Also, I wanted to through something else out to ya'll to think about. Mods, I don't know if this is the right place to add it, but it sounded like a good place to add.

On pg. 847 AV OOP Madame Pomfrey says:

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thoughts can leave deeper scarring than almost anything else


This got me thinking the analogy brain is to thoughts as tentacles are to __________?

If we can figure that out then maybe we can learn what they might be experimenting on.

Well tell me what you think...

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: aunt petunia Reply with quote

you all know how jkr talked about how someone was going to use magic later making us all suspect it was a squib? well i think it is petunia because jkr said she isn't a squib and she is a muggle at the moment she might realise her powers later. it sounds a bit like the matrix when the oracle said he isn't the one, not in this lifetime but then he gets shot up and trinity brings him back
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome new sleuth!! It would be very helpful if you would take a look at the posting rules for these forums before posting. They may be found here:
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On pg. 847 AV OOP Madame Pomfrey says:

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thoughts can leave deeper scarring than almost anything else


This got me thinking the analogy brain is to thoughts as tentacles are to __________?


mertles twin is right in saying that. but why did JKR write ron as the person who summoned the brains. could it have been a subtle method of showing how self concious or something?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brains are to thoughts as tentacles are to the giant squid?

It's going to be a long 24 hours....
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently DD has been experimenting too, since he developed the way for the Order to communicate using their patronus!

Please see JKR site, FAQ poll, or home page of mugglenet.com.

Have fun~!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here we have two examples of wizards dabbling in experimental magic from Wizards of the Month on www.jkrowling.com and from chocolate frog cards.

1. Falco Aesalon- first animagus. He was a falcon. If he was the first this whole form of magic was experimental from him.

2. Bertie Bott- His card quotes him as “experimenting” with magic to create tasty candy and accidently adding socks to create the first Bertie Blotts every flavored Beans flavor. This proves magical experimenting goes hand in hand with accidents.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So now we know that DD came up with the communication for the order. Since, he is one of the most powerful wizards of the time, what other experiments could he have come up with? Do any of ya'll think that maybe the silver instruments in his office, he could have made? I am especially thinking of the snake "machine". Also, I had asked the question what other things might the order members be working on concerning experimental magic? Wormtail in PoA pg. 374 AV:

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The Dark Lord...he has weapons you can't imagine


We are aware that the DE's do so what kinds of "weapons" might the order have?
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